Wednesday, March 12, 2014

I admire Investors with Skin in the Game

Anytime I study companies for a potential investment, I always try to do plenty of research on the company, reading annual reports, analyst reports and articles on the firm. Many times I end up reading very positive articles where owning company’s shares is mentioned as a no-brainer decision. After reading the articles however, I am always surprised when authors are not owning shares in this otherwise slam-dunk investment.

That being said there are valid reasons for not owning a company's stock, such as waiting for a pullback or due to conflict of interest. Either way however, I prefer to listen to an investor who has skin in the game. Authors who are good at writing articles, have very little to teach me about investing, where the major part of success is based on investor psychology, rather than neatly organized content. I believe in learning from those who practice their skills, not those who claim to have knowledge of it. After all, if you went for a surgery, would you go for the person that has all the theoretical knowledge, or would you go for the person who has actually practiced their skill?

I do not trust financial advisers whose goal is to sell you products you do not need. I cannot trust a college kid with a degree who has never dealt with psychological dilemmas of investing decisions. I enjoy reading articles written by authors who talk about their own experiences as investors.

I also prefer books from authors who have made it in the investing game, or at least discuss a particular topic from their own experiences. If they failed that is fine with me as well. Sometimes you increase your chances of success and gain more knowledge on a given topic when you learn what not to do, rather than what you should be doing. If you narrow down investing books to only those based on personal experience, rather than the academic ones describing your hypothetical returns, you are only left with a handful.

The reason why I prefer following investors with skin in the game is because you view situations differently when money is on the line, rather than using statistics and pie in the sky models. That is why I respect individuals with stake in the game. Warren Buffett for example, the world’s most renowned investor and the chairman of Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B) is the epitome of an individual with a stake in the game, who have always treated investors that have trusted him with their money as partners, and looked after their best interests. He made a lot of money for himself in the process as well.

Richard Kinder, the CEO of Kinder Morgan Inc. (KMI) is another individual that I greatly admire. His interests are aligned with the interests of Kinder Morgan (KMI) shareholders and Kinder Morgan Energy (KMP) limited partners. The higher the distributions that Kinder Morgan Energy Partners achieves, the higher the dividends that this CEO with the sky-high salary of $1/year will receive. Compared to Richard Kinder, even Buffett's $100,000/year salary looks excessive.

Compare this to the typical CEO compensation however, which runs into the millions of dollars, no matter what the financial performance of the company they are heading. Some CEO's spend more time gaming the system, and wasting shareholders' money on ill-timed ego boosting acquisitions or share buybacks, while collecting big paychecks. For example, in 2009 I posted a chart of the CEO's that collected enormous bonuses, while their companies were struggling and had to cut distributions to shareholders.

Full Disclosure: Long KMI and KMR

Relevant Articles:

- Complete List of Articles on Dividend Growth Investor Website
Highest paid CEO’s in 2008 didn’t perform that well as a group
The Importance of Corporate Governance for Successful Dividend Investing
Warren Buffett Investing Resource Page
The work required to have an opinion


  1. I'm long KMI as well but am not convinced by Kinder' investment. A key part is the percentage of his worth invested in his company which I think (admittedly no facts) isn't that large.

    However, in general I completely agree with your sediment. Insider ownership is a very good thing to investigate. There are so many data points that adding another to your arsenal is always a plus.

    Great read, keep up the good work!

  2. I would say you can learn from both types of articles in different ways.

    It's nice to know an author has skin in the game, but how long have they owned the stock? They could be heavily biased by owning for some time and continue to rationalize a stale idea. Stick with the successful and well established track records.

    Authors that don't have a stake probably shouldn't be leaned on for their recommendation, but general information they reveal about the company would be helpful if others have not yet brought up certain information.

  3. One of the reasons I have followed DGI for over the past 4 years is because you write about stocks you know and those that you own.

    I appreciate all the useful material here, which has helped me start to build my dividend portfolio.

    Keep up the great work!

  4. Kurt,

    Rich Kinder has almost all of his money in Kinder Morgan. If he never buys another share, I would still be convinced on him. Should you buy it - it depends on your own risk tolerance.


    There are always two sides to a coin, and I do get your arguments ;-)I also know that some analysts are not allowed to own securities - I think has this policy. However I personally believe that someone who is writing and not owning a stock, should not be trusted, because they are not willing to put money where there mouth is.

  5. Hi JS,

    Thanks for reading the site. I do want to try and inspire people to take care of their own financial destiny.

    I think I am pretty successful in that, because for the past several months I had an internet troll trying to pick fights with me, and always throwing personal attacks every single day. The problem with them was that they never had anything specific to say against my articles - just how much I sucked. Unfortunately for them, I banned them from the site, so anything they say goes automatically in the trash. I haven't heard from them since.

    Overall however, I operate much better when I deal with adversity. If I am gaining haters, that means the message I am saying is really strong. I just need to keep on spreading the truth, and trying to inspire more investors to start learning about investments, and help them learn more about business.

    Best Regards,

    Dividend Growth Investor

    1. I wouldn't worry about the haters too much. Your site and the content you provide is excellent. For online content I really only read your stuff now as I feel it's genuine, focused and educational. These are all traits that a great source of investing info should include. Keep it up.

  6. I agree 100% that having skin in the game gives you credibility. I have a problem with the one service that I subscribe to that the brothers don't own a large number of the stocks that they recommend. I tend to only invest in those that they hold shares in, and ignore the rest of their advice. Thanks

  7. Richard Kinder as of Nov 11, 2015 is receiving as of the last dividend increase, $119,448,300.03 in dividends per quarter which is I think taxed at a lower rate than if he received a large salary. Very smart move in my humble opinion. If the dividend never increases he will get $477,793,200.12 + $1.00 a year. If he worked a 40 hour work week a year he would make $229,708.27 an hour. ($477,793,201.12 / (2080) = $229708.27 per hour). That is if the dividend never goes up. So he has a large interest in KMI and continuing to raise the dividend. LONG LONG KMI.....

  8. Great comments, in this blog and the many that I have read. Your clarity, thoughtfulness and degree of common sense are very much appreciated. Cheers and hat's off!!


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